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Nina Iskandar

“It’s clearer to me trying to balance my personal life and the public life and I figured it was time for me to step up and be back to who I actually am or was for my very own reasons. All these people who are saying that I am taking my religion as a game, which I don’t think is bad for them to be judging that way, and I have received a lot of hateful comments almost everywhere on the social media. Never mind about what people think, you know, if you start paying attention to it and letting it get to you, that’s when you start to have doubts. Negative opinions are just barriers to where you want to get to. I’m trying to stay strong and I’m not really moved by it, not even 1%, I guess because I know I’m doing this not for anybody but for me and my life in the long run. Just because I’m going through a difficult time, I know for a fact that it won’t last forever. Have the right people in your life and the ones who will support you no matter what. I’m Nina Iskandar and I Share Hope.” — Nina Iskandar

The Bruneian actress has taken the industry by storm since pursuing acting and not long ago becoming the face of a drama series filmed by RTB which combined the best young talents of both Brunei and Malaysia, the starlet has risen to new levels, sharing the same set as profiled and seasoned actors and actresses.

Nina is known for her TV series (Drama) Erna Suraya (RTM), Balkish and Rintihanku. She has also showcased her acting talents in the big screen (Perempuan Muka Surat Tujuh, Sniper dan Lu, Gua Bro, Cari, Muka Surat Cinta, Pengantin Malam, Ada Apa Dengan Rina).



30: Nina Iskandar – Lights, Camera, Hope! – #isharehope

“It’s clearer to me trying to balance my personal life and the public life and I figured it was time for me to step up and be back to who I actually am or was for my very own reasons. All these people who are saying that I am taking my religion as a game, which I don’t think is bad for them to be judging that way, and I have received a lot of hateful comments almost everywhere on the social media. Never mind about what people think, you know, if you start paying attention to it and letting it get to you, that’s when you start to have doubts. Negative opinions are just barriers to where you want to get to. I’m trying to stay strong and I’m not really moved by it, not even 1%, I guess because I know I’m doing this not for anybody but for me and my life in the long run. Just because I’m going through a difficult time, I know for a fact that it won’t last forever. Have the right people in your life and the ones who will support you no matter what. I’m Nina Iskandar and I Share Hope. ”Nina Iskandar

Intro:

Welcome to I Share Hope! The podcast where world leaders share their real stories of hope and how you can use actionable hope to start changing your life today and now here’s your host, Chris Williams.

Chris Williams:

Nina Iskandar, I am thrilled to have you today here on I Share Hope, sharing hope with so many people around the world. You’ve risen to stardom in Malaysia and in Brunei where you’re from and I’m sure in many other places. I know who you are and I’m all the way across the globe. You’re starring in movies, TV shows and so many other media places. It’s really fun to watch your career move forward. You’re truly a movie star, it’s a privilege to talk to you. Thank you for being here. Tell us more about what you’re doing now on stage and what are you doing just in life? What’s going on?

Nina Iskandar:

Okay. To be honest with you, as I’m speaking to you right now I’m on a break. I’ve been on a break since January and I’m going back to Malaysia next month because I have another project. I’m just taking a break and enjoying every moment of it because I’m in my comfort zone in Brunei.

For the past few months, I haven’t really done anything.

Chris Williams:

You deserve a break.

Nina Iskandar:

Yes I do deserve it I think. Well, last month a drama was added on TV3 at Sun Channel, a Malaysian channel. It’s quite big. That was around 21 episodes that I just finished. Last year, I did about four movies in a row and a lot of dramas as well. I think I’ve done around eight dramas for the whole two and a half years I’ve been in the industry in Malaysia. So for me, although I think there may be a lot of people doing better than me, I think for me, coming from Brunei, I think that’s still great.  

Chris Williams:

No, you’re tremendous. No matter where you’re from, you’re tremendous. Thanks for sharing your life and so much of you on set, it’s just incredible what you do in your career and your occupation, your profession that really brings a lot of story and emotion and heart and patterns for people. It’s really great. Thank you.

Nina Iskandar:

Yes, thank you.

Chris Williams: 

Well Nina, you know how this works. We ask each guest five questions about hope and you answer them however you like. So, I’m going to jump in to question one and I’m just thrilled that we get to learn from you today.

Question 1: How do you define hope or what is your favorite hope quote?

Nina Iskandar:

I consider myself as quote junkie. I like to search for quotes and whatever that’s relevant to my life. The one hope quote that actually captured my attention would be “All it takes is one bloom of hope to make a spiritual garden”. I think I was grabbed by that quote because I think it’s one of the truest sayings and it’s the most relevant to everything in life.

Why is that – because I feel like we need hope to live. Without hope, we wouldn’t have been able to move on and go through life’s obstacles. I think hope keeps us strong. It is a source of positivity and strength. That’s my view of hope.

Chris Williams:

That’s beautiful. One bloom of hope is all it takes to grow a spiritual garden. I probably didn’t say it as eloquently as you did, but that’s so true and you’re right, we can’t live without it. Wow. Love it. So, based on that definition or that quote..

Question 2: Who’s given you the most hope in life?

Nina Iskandar:

I would say a few people, but I mean I would say my significant other has given me hope in so many ways. I’ve known him for almost six years and I’m almost 24 now, so you can imagine the things that we have gone through while growing up together in trying to find ourselves. I mean I’m still trying to find myself now, but he’s helped me to open my mind to life as a whole. I’m prone to making silly decisions and I’ve done a lot of mistakes as part of my growing, but I believe that if I hadn’t met him life would have been different. It would have been dull and boring. In him I find hope and that hope, it’s what keeps me growing. He has the most impact on my life.

Chris Williams:

That’s wonderful. I sure hope he’s getting to listen to this.

Nina Iskandar:

Yes. I hope he will. Anyway, besides him I would say my mother because of the fact that she stuck by my side through thick and thin and through my happiest and most depressing moments. How can you not find hope in that, right?

Chris Williams:

Yes, you’re right. You’re so right. That’s a great example from both of those people – your significant other as you call him and your mom. I don’t want to put any more labels on the relationships, but those two really are great examples. Particularly that you’re very young and I mean that respectfully, in a good way, you’ve done a lot in your 23-plus years, almost 24. That means a lot of growing and a lot of changing and going through different seasons of life probably faster than most people do and it can be pretty traumatic.

Nina Iskandar:

I don’t know. I feel like I’ve been going through so much for a 23-year-old living in Brunei.

Chris Williams:

I bet you have. Well, let’s talk more about any of those stories you’d like to in question 3.

Question 3: How have you used hope to make it through a difficult time in your life?

Take us back to a place and a time, tell us stories of what’s going on and how have you used hope.

Nina Iskandar:

Okay, how about I tell you a story of when I was 11 years old and a story now, so two stories.

Chris Williams:

Great.

Nina Iskandar:

The first story was when I was 11 years old. I was born with a congenital heart block. That means my heart isn’t as strong as other normal human beings. My heartbeat would go as low as 30 to 40 heartbeats per minute or however you call it. So,when I was 11 and we were just shopping, me and my mom, and we were in the car, all of a sudden my mom noticed that I was really being weird. Strange breathing as if I was drowning and trying to breath for air. She turned to look at me and I was all blue. My lips were just blue and I was just really pale and she started – all I could remember at that point was her screaming for me to just open my eyes and for me to recite a few of the Quranic verses with her, you know, I’m Muslim.

At that point, I thought that I was dreaming. I dreamt of this really beautiful place. I was walking on the side of the road alone and there was just sunset. I was just walking and I heard voices of people calling me back and stopped and then I tried to open my eyes. I saw my mom, her face was just right there in front of me and she was just crying and sobbing and she was begging for me to just stay with her and tried my very best. I tried to stay with her for a few times and then they rushed me to the hospital, at the Emergency Department. I was there and I don’t really know how to say that – how do you call that thing where you… If somebody has a heart attack and you go “okay, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…clear!”

Chris Williams:

That’s the defibrillator where they shock your heart back into life.

Nina Iskandar:

Yes okay, that is that. They did that to me five times.

Chris Williams:

No.

Nina Iskandar:

All my family members were just there crying. They thought I was gone. Honestly, I was young. I didn’t really know what was happening. I couldn’t really remember, but apparently they did that five times. What I could remember is me waking up in a hospital bed and I had a temporary pacemaker implanted on my groin. The next day, they rushed me to Singapore with a stretcher and they operated on me. I have a pacemaker now, a permanent pacemaker.

Chris Williams:

Really?

Nina Iskandar:

I’ve had that since I was 11 years old.

Chris Williams:

Wow.

Nina Iskandar:

Not everybody knows that. The doctor was telling me, it’s a pacemaker, you’re different. You can’t really do anything like the normal people do. You can’t play basketball, you have to quit your – that time I took swimming lessons, so you have to quit your swimming lessons, you have to rest a lot, you have to quit your religious school and stuff because I had religious classes after my normal class in the morning. They were like, you can’t really do a lot of exercises and stuff. You can’t go on the roller coaster.That bothered me. I was crying because I wanted my old life back. I just wanted to be normal.

I didn’t go to school for like a month because I was in Singapore and when I came back, people were making fun of me. They would call me names such as robot and like, you’re not even real and stuff. You have batteries inside you, you have metal inside you, you’re not human being, you’re not real, you’re a robot. It got to me and I would always come back from school and cry. My parents would always try to assure me that I was a special kid and I was different from everyone and I shouldn’t be upset about something.

Since then, I would always find – I said there must be a reason why I’m still living. God gave me a second chance to live, there has to be something out there. So here I am, I’m still trying to figure that one out, but life is good.

Chris Williams:

I’m so glad you’re still here. Even in, you’re 11 or 12, that’s the middle school range when everybody is kind of this weird stage and everybody’s insecure and what a hard time to get ridiculed a great time to have support from mom around. Tell me the other story.

Nina Iskandar:

Okay, the other story which is now. As we are speaking right now Chris, to be honest with you, I am going through a difficult time in my life.

Chris Williams:

I’m sorry.

Nina Iskandar:

There is a controversy going around in my country and in Malaysia where I’m working about the whole issue of me and my image changing from being all covered up back to my previous free hair image. I mean fine, I caused the whole thing, I created the controversy, but I just thought I wasn’t ready to keep up with being all covered up and being somebody I actually am not for the public. I mean I’m tired of having to balance. It’s such a…

How do I say this? It’s clearer to me trying to balance my personal life and  my public life and I figured it was just time for me to step up and be back to who I actually am or was for my very own reasons which only me and maybe my family and God knows. All these people are saying that I’m taking my religion as a game, which I don’t think is fair for them to be judging that way. I admit, last year I rushed into it, I announced it to the public, I made it official that I would be covered up – not thinking it through though whether I am ready by 100%. So now the public is furious and I have received a lot of hateful comments almost everywhere on the social media especially Facebook and Instagram.

But, I’m trying to stay strong and I’m not really moved by it, not even 1%, I guess because I know I’m doing this not for anybody, but for me and my life in the long run. I have my aims, Chris, and dreams which I have yet to achieve. I’m here where I am, but I feel like there are also a lot of things that I need to achieve. I wouldn’t say that I have succeeded nor have I failed, I just took a detour in my life and I guess I’m just trying to get back on track. I have my beliefs and it doesn’t mean that I’m a bad person. Do you think I’m a bad person?

Chris Williams: 

No, I don’t.

Nina Iskandar:

I mean I don’t think I’m a bad person as the public is thinking I am, but honestly I just had a re-think about everything in my life, my choices and what I do and stuff. I don’t expect anybody to understand because I know there’s one God and I believe he is the most understanding and all merciful. Just because I’m going through a difficult time, I know for a fact that it won’t last forever. I know what I want and where I want to be in my life. I have my ambitions and that gives me hope to keep my chin up high even through difficult times like these. You just got to have the right people in your life, the ones who will support you no matter what.

Chris Williams:

Well said. I’m so glad you’re keeping your chin up and I really do think that there are so many things that we learn as we grow. Some of these things, particularly those really personal beliefs, they have to come from within you because nobody can be you and nobody can believe for you. You have to find those things and you have to track those things down, wrestle with them yourself and make them your own.

Nina Iskandar:

That’s true – which I’m doing now. If I don’t act on it now, I’ll always feel stuck and I’ll feel like I’ll always be miserable because they’re not letting me live my life however I want it to.

Chris Williams: 

You know, one thing, I’m not that much older than you although I probably am really. I sure don’t want to think I am, I’m only 38, but I guess when I add it up that’s a decent amount older. Always here with me, my daughter and she’s one of five of our children and we tell them a lot to think and work hard. I think you’re thinking hard in that process of thinking about what you’re doing and wrestling with it. Having to go against opposition, it really challenges what you’re doing and strengthens where you end up.That’s great.

Nina Iskandar:

That’s true.

Chris Williams:

Thank you for sharing both of those stories of what you’re going through now and in the past and how you’re really gaining hope and strength from the people around you even though so many people around you in both stories are not very helpful. You still have the strength.

Question 4: How are you sharing hope today? What are you doing on a daily basis to share hope with other people?

Nina Iskandar:

On a daily basis if you want to know what I do, I don’t really do anything so I don’t think I’m sharing hope to anybody on a daily basis.

Chris Williams:

I think you’re doing more than you think you are.

Nina Iskandar:

Well, you know, nowadays I’ve been in Brunei. I’ve been posting a lot of these foodie pictures of what I eat and so maybe that’s giving hope to people to eat.

Chris Williams:

You know, in your position honestly you’ve got so many people following what you’re doing. Those fun little pictures, I’ve looked at your Instagram and Facebook and you have some beautiful pictures of food by the way. You’re really good at taking pictures of food.

Nina Iskandar:

You follow me? I didn’t know that.

Chris Williams:

Actually, I’m looking at your Instagram account right now.

Nina Iskandar:

I see.

Chris Williams:

So, you doing those things bring smiles and energy and passion and so much to people’s lives because there is a lot of young women, I’m sure, who are watching what you’re doing very closely. Even though it’s just a desert or just a meal you’re taking a picture of, there’s still a lot more of you there they can read about and know about, so congratulations.

Nina Iskandar:

I hope so.

Chris Williams:

All right.

Question 5: Tell me and Allie here with me, how can we grow in hope personally or how can we start sharing hope with people around us?

Either at her age which is right around the same age that you were when you had that heart issue first spring up or as an adult, how can I start sharing hope? What are some simple things I can do? When she goes to school or when I go to work.

Nina Iskandar:

I think it’s more relevant if I spoke about what I’m doing now on how I’m giving hope to people. So, on being the first Bruneian to join the international or frankly Malaysian industry and making it to the big screen, it’s really inspired many other locals in our country. If there’s one thing that you should know about the people of Brunei, they’ve got talent. Besides them having talent and stuff, personally I don’t think that showbiz is getting anywhere. I feel like our showbiz industry is limited. To build a name and be recognized for your talent, you’ve got to just take the courage, spread your wings and fly.

In the start of my journey, I’ve made it obvious to the public nothing is impossible. First is you should really try to find deep within you what your passion is or what your dream is that you’ve always had. Second is just to believe in yourself and believe that you’ll be there, but in order to be there don’t be afraid to do something that you’ve never done before. You have to step out of your comfort zone and work hard for it. Never mind about what people think. If you start paying attention to it and letting it get to you, that’s when you start to have doubts.

You have to remember also that negatives mindsets or negative opinions are just barriers to where you want to get to. We can also start to help people to grow in hope today by focusing on being the right person, if you get what I mean – by evoking the positive energy. This, in a way, will give hope to others to be good as well. If you’re good inside-out, you’ll never engage to cyber bullying. With this, you’ll attract the right people and live in a positive environment. I think that it’s easier to pursue anything if you have the right environment and the right people around you.

Chris Williams:

Those are great steps and great points. I’m going to roll back through those real quick. You’re saying, find that passion within you, really know what you’re after and go after it and then believe in yourself. Believe that you can do it and that’s super important because so many of us are probably our own worst critics. We think it could be outside, but it’s really our self talking, saying I probably can’t. But then, pursuing being that great person and being the encourager and being the one who’s motivating yourself and others, you’re right. It really does bring out the best in others and a lot of the “cyberbullying” that you may even be experiencing right now with your choices. You know, those things fade away and if you keep being that positive person, the other positive people will continue to gather around you.

Nina Iskandar:

Yes that’s right. I feel like energy is contagious, so you have to be careful of what you are.

Chris Williams:

It’s so important. I’m so glad you’re saying this because there’s so many younger people who look up to you and social media right now is wonderful, we all have a lot of fun on it but it’s super important that we’re careful with how we’re treating people there just like we do when we see them face to face and honestly even more so because more people see it.

Nina Iskandar:

Yes.

Chris Williams:

That’s great. Nina, wonderful. People are watching you from all over the world. Anybody who’s new to you…

Nina Iskandar:

Is it live right now?

Chris Williams:

No, it’s not live right now.

Nina Iskandar:

Oh I see.

Chris Williams:

In a month or so, maybe two months, it’s somewhere in that range, we do editing and get it back out. We have a great group of people who are – actually another wonderful Malaysian who’s going to be coming up here on the queue soon.

Nina Iskandar:

Really? Who?

Chris Williams:

I don’t know if I should announce it yet. She’s so wonderful.

Nina Iskandar:

Is she the same profession as I am?

Chris Williams:

She’s not the same profession as you. So, let’s go for this, it’s Marina Mahathir. She’s there in Malaysia. I don’t know if you know who she is.

Nina Iskandar:

Oh no, I don’t, but she sounds really interesting.

Chris Williams:

She is. You’ll love finding out more about her. She’s a wonderful person there in Malaysia and she’s done an enormous amount of work for AIDS and healing people and giving a lot of prevention work and so many other communities. She’s been very, very active.

Nina Iskandar:

Okay Chris, if you don’t mind me asking you now, how do you find all these people from different countries?

Chris Williams: 

That’s a great question and I’m really glad you’re asking all these questions because they’re fun to answer and it gives people background as well. So, what we’re doing is a research project. This is originally a research project, not as much a podcast, but it’s become part of that because it was worth sharing. We’re asking 1000 leaders around the world who are leaders in hope these five questions of hope and finding out what the world believes about hope and how they actually use hope to make their communities a better place.

So, literally this is a global project. Every 8 million people on the planet, for instance, this is where to think of it, every group of 8 million people get one representative to equal the 1000 that represents the world. So, I really appreciate you being in so many categories that we’re looking into both in every walk. So, you’re obviously in the media a lot, you’re an actress, very much a movie star, you’re in Malaysia, you’re from Brunei, a woman, there’s all these things that you are that are a part of the survey and you’re filling some really great roles in helping  us here, so thank you very much.

Nina Iskandar:

I admire what you’re doing right now. This project of yours, I’m sure there’s a lot of other people out there that are listening to all the interviews that actually give them hope. So, that’s the whole purpose, right? That’s really good.

Chris Williams:

It started from me just going through really tough, dark times in my life and some people telling me wisely and I’m glad they did, “Chris, you need to start pursuing other people who have hope and learning from them”. So, I started doing that and then it became obvious that there was a lot of hope out there to learn from and gather and so I’m so grateful to you and many others for sharing with me and everybody who’s listening with me. We’re all here learning together.

Nina Iskandar:  

Thank you Chris for having me.

Chris Williams:

Thank you. How can we get in touch with you Nina? How can we follow you? Social media, your website, where do we track you down?

Nina Iskandar:

Okay, you can follow me on Instagram, I’m quite active there. You can follow me at Nina Iskandar or my fan club, Phenomenarsand you can follow my Twitter although I’m not that active there, it’ OfficialNinaIsk. I have a few Facebook pages, you can just follow or like my Facebook page, Nina Iskandar or Phenomenars.

Chris Williams: 

That’s great. We’ll definitely put all of that on the show notes page for this episode or the episode info on our website,isharehope.com and we’ll share some pictures of you that are just fantastic and then we’ll share the links to these social media places and your website. It would be really fun to have you there and fun to share your story.

Nina, thank you so much for your time today. It’s been a privilege and so much fun. You’re such a great person, a happy person to listen to and talk to. We all have our days that are not so happy, but you’re doing a great job muscling through those and sharing hope in the process. So, thank you very much for your time.

Nina Iskandar:

I would like to say the same thing Chris Williams. Thank you so much for having me in this interview. It was such a pleasure to talk with someone out there. Honestly, when you sent me that email I was excited. It’s something new and it’s nice havingAllie around as well.

Chris Williams:

I agree. She’s great, she’s great to have here. Well, Allie’s got to get off to her day at school and I know you have to get off to dinner.

Nina Iskandar:

Have a good day Allie.

Allie Williams: 

Okay, thank you.

Nina Iskandar:

I’m getting really hungry.

Chris Williams: 

Okay, thank you Nina.

Nina Iskandar:

Okay, thank you, bye. Have a good day.

Allie and Chris Williams:

Bye.

You’ve just listened to I Share Hope. If you’re ready to make a change, head to our website at isharehope.com and claim your free copy of the Top Ten Actions of Hope from World Leaders to use hope in your own life. Thanks for listening and we’ll talk to you next time.

Chris Williams:

So, you’re doing all these shows, you set a bunch of shows in the past month or two, are you literally memorizing scripts every day and then running back out there and delivering those lines and forgetting it and coming back into the next one? How does that work?

Nina Iskandar:

That’s a very interesting question. I don’t really memorize my script. I used to do that during my first year of filming, but I realized that if you were to memorize something it doesn’t come out naturally. It’s not up to par with your expression or your emotion because you’re more trying to memorize the whole line. As I gradually progressed in the industry, I learned that it’s a matter of understanding the context and trying to deliver it your way, with your style, your character. That’s how people pick up your energy that’s been given out in the movie. That’s how people notice you.

But because I’m not that fluent in Malaysian accent, I still have that Bruneian accent. The Malaysian and Bruneian accent, they’re not the same. Sometimes, I don’t understand what the word is because I would say that I understand English more than I do Malay. So, if I don’t understand a particular thing, I would ask the director and I would tell him to show me how this is meant to be. We would practice before we’d film and we would rehearse the lines and if it sounds funny I would say it in another way. That’s just how it is.

Chris Williams:  

You’re in Brunei now, is that correct?

Nina Iskandar:

Yes correct.

Chris Williams:

So, you’re looking at all these other actors and actresses all over the world, if you could act with anyone, on the set with anybody out there, who would it be?

Nina Iskandar:

I probably would go for Matthew Mcconaughey.

Chris Williams: 

Really? That’s great.

Nina Iskandar:

Yes, because he seems to have his very own – how do I say this? There’s just something about him, let’s just say it that way. I would love to act with him.

Chris Williams:

That’s great. Hopefully, if I get to interview him, I will mention that you’re looking forward to that day. Tell me, if you need to hear some music in your headphones and you just have to chill out and want to get some hope back in your mind and in your heart, what are you going to listen to? Anything out there.

Nina Iskandar:

For the past few days, I’ve been listening to a lot of, do you know this – it’s a very classic song, I’m sure you’ve heard of it, Don’t Worry Be Happy.

Chris Williams:

Absolutely.

Nina Iskandar:

Yes. That keeps me happy and positive.

Chris Williams:

You made Allie and I both giggle while were thinking of that, so thank you.

Nina Iskandar:

I forgot the singer but that’s what I’ve been listening to. Actually I’ve been listening to that a lot.

Chris Williams:

It’s going to be in my head all day long now.

Nina Iskandar:

Oh yes, sorry Bobby McFerrin.

Chris Williams:

Nice. You remember it there, excellent.

(Allie mentioning something in background)

Nina Iskandar:

What?

Chris Williams:

In the US, there’s this fish, they are plastic and they’re hung on the wall. You’ve seen people that mount their hunting trophies or fishing trophies or whatever on the wall or their den or whatever, well they sell these fish that look real, but there’s a little red button at the bottom of the trophy and they’re hanging on the wall and you press the button and all of a sudden, the fish, you’ll realize it’s made of rubber and it turns its head and starts singing don’t worry be happy right at you.

Nina Iskandar:

Oh really? Wow.

Chris Williams:

That’s great. I love it. In fact, shoot me your mailing address and I will make sure that Amazon delivers a don’t worry be happy fish to your door. That will be really fun.

Nina Iskandar:

Wow, really? You’d do that?

Chris Williams: 

You’ll be sorry you ever said that.

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On I Share Hope’s site you can read and listen to motivational podcast interviews with leaders from many walks of life. We reach out to people who are leaders in their fields to see what they can te…Read More

I Share Hope is a website, a community if you will, of people who give and receive motivation amongst each other. Through a series of motivation podcasts we hope to inspire people around the world to …Read More

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