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“My definition of hope is like I said, expecting something different because I have found myself in certain situations where I was hoping for something different to come out of it. So, I’m hoping for something different to take place. So, once I started practicing, picking my bible, that’s how I built my relationship with Christ. Things started changing for me. My hope turned into faith and my faith turned into knowing that – knowing that there is something greater.”— Lisa Robertson

Lisa Robertson is winning the war on drugs, poverty, homelessness and illness. As a woman of faith, she is hopeful for even more victory.



22: Lisa Robertson – Hope vs Addiction. How she is winning the battle. #isharehope

“My definition of hope is like I said, expecting something different because I have found myself in certain situations where I was hoping for something different to come out of it. So, I’m hoping for something different to take place. So, once I started practicing, picking my bible, that’s how I built my relationship with Christ. Things started changing for me. My hope turned into faith and my faith turned into knowing that – knowing that there is something greater.” Lisa Robertson

Intro:

Welcome to I Share Hope! The podcast where world leaders share their real stories of hope and how you can use actionable hope to start changing your life today and now here’s your host, Chris Williams.

Chris Williams:  

Today, I am here with Lisa Robertson and we are actually sitting in Saint Mary’s Cathedral and there is a newspaper that’s produced here by the students of Rhodes College and in connection with people who used to be in a homeless situation or are supporting a homeless community or helping people escape from that and get back to something else in life. So, Lisa Robertson, I have no idea of the details of her story, but I’m super excited to talk to her. She’s a great lady so far, just getting to know her. Lisa, thanks for your time today.

Lisa Robertson:

You’re welcome. Chris, I’m so excited to give my expression of hope as expecting something different. I could go back to my childhood years, I’m the number eight out of eight siblings. Four brothers and three sisters. There was not never too much that I had to share because I was the youngest. I’m going to use a good example. If it’s a brother or sister, whoever and it’s a box of cereals, everybody like their own different cereal, so whoever get up first that morning, open that box of cereal and get that prize. That means the others will have to follow and eat their box of cereals as well.

With that, it goes back to once again, I had to share when my nieces and nephews would come over. I had to share with them and I would love to share with them, but when sharing with them, I expected something back. I was young at that time and didn’t know better. When I was nice to people and was sharing with them and they didn’t want to share back with me, it hurt me, it’s an insult to me. So with that, it brought selfishness on with me because I was like, well, you’re not going to give me, I’m not going to give you. So, with childhood experiences that’s how a lot of things come in when you’re hoping that someone will share with you back in your childhood days and stuff like this.

It’s something different now because the way I look at it now, I have to look at it as what caused me being homeless, hooked on drugs. You know, drugs was a part of me being homeless.

Chris Williams: 

Question 1: What is your definition of hope or what’s a quote about hope or the way you think about hope?

Lisa Robertson:

My definition of hope is, like I said, expecting something different because I have found myself in certain situations where I was hoping for something different to come out of it because each time I would experience something different. I’m hoping for something different to take place. So, I would say hope is expectations.

Chris Williams:

Expectations for something different. Wow, that’s great. That’s a good quote. Expectations for something different. I like that a lot. Thank you.

Lisa Robertson: 

You’re welcome.

Chris Williams:

Question 2: Who has shared hope with you in the past? Who has been a good giver of hope? Anybody you want to pick. Anybody in your life.

Lisa Robertson: 

I’m going to have to use my husband. My husband, T.A. Robertson, when I first met him he was that natural rich person. He was very rich in spirit and that drew me to him. The respect and out of love that he wanted to see me better and be at peace with what was going on in my life and basically he introduced me to something different. I was a backslider. I was a churchgoer. I was born and raised going to church, you know, like the scripture said, raise a child up in the way they should go so if they flee, they will return back and by the grace of God I returned back. By the Holy Spirit using my husband, he returned me back so once again that was hope. Again, expecting something different. Even with me and in my life, he was something different.

Chris Williams: 

That’s great to hear. Great word. He seems like a good guy.

Lisa Robertson: 

Yes he is.

Chris Williams: 

You’re a blessed girl. That’s great.

Lisa Robertson:

I feel that I’m a very lucky girl to have a very God-sent man. For me hoping for that, here it is, it’s in my life right today. That’s why I always say hope to me is expectation of something different.

Chris Williams:

Yes. Wow. So, we’re sitting here in this beautiful Saint Mary’s facility here, the chandeliers and just hundred-year-old crown molding and it’s a beautiful place inside the church. Oriental rugs, the stain-glass windows…It’s just amazing. This is a really hopeful place and there’s a lot of energy here, a lot of background noise as people come and go and pick up the papers they’re going to be selling and the students are here helping with the process of making and developing the papers, but question number three…

Question 3: When is a time then when you haven’t had anything good going on or when was the time when you really had to fall back and lean on that hope that something could change? That there’d be a different day?

Lisa Robertson: 

You know Chris, it’s like you said, we sitting here, I can remember coming here when I was sleeping in empty houses and in shelters, from the empty houses to shelters and I can remember coming here getting a meal and getting loved.

Chris Williams:  

You mean coming right here to this facility?

Lisa Robertson:

Coming right here to this same spot right here for a hot meal and love and whatever they had to offer. I was willing to receive because like I told you, I was expecting something different. I was hoping that my life would change. I’ve seen that it was changing the others so their hope came onto me. I knew if it happened for them, it was going to happen for me, but there was some things that I was going to have to do. First of all, I hoped that there was something greater than myself, which I know now that there is. That’s the Holy Spirit that leads me, guides me, teaches me. Basically, it’s all about him now. Now that this HOPE, with the ministry that me and my husband has, HOPE, He Only Promises Eternal Life, who wouldn’t want eternal life?

Tell me the steps. I’m hoping that I get the steps that I could do this and once it comes to me, this revelation goes to me, I can give this hope to somebody else.

Chris Williams:

So the steps, I really want to get to in a minute as well. So, you’re way ahead of the game here, I love it. Keep them in your mind though, don’t lose it yet. So, what was back there? What happened in your life? Why did you end up in a hopeless spot and what was that spot like?

Lisa Robertson: 

Let me tell you, I came to a part with myself where I thought I was – basically I thought I was getting even with someone else, hurting someone else and ended up getting the result of the hurt as well as my children and my family with the drill. Like I said, it affected me and my family and it caused me to lose a lot of self-respect. Once that I started hanging around people that wanted something out of life, I started hoping for something different. So, the more that I changed the places and the people that I’m with too and I socialize with older people because I know they had been through something. I knew they could help me. So, I started listening because faith comes through listening and I know God worked on people.

I knew I was hoping for this miraculous change to come over my life and I knew of some things that I was going to have to do. First of all, I was going to have to admit that I had a drug problem, that it took control over my life. I had to be strong and admit that hey, I want to change. I may speak in this situation to change for the better. Not just for me, but for me to give to somebody else.

Chris Williams:

Why did you first get into drugs? What made you do that? Because we’ve all heard the same stories since we were kids, don’t do this, don’t do that, but something takes us there no matter what what…

Lisa Robertson:  

It is ironic that you asked me this because I got caught up with a guy, which now I know that I cannot blame him for the actions that I took because he didn’t put a gun to my head and made me do the drug. I just think where I could get back even with him, you know, by doing the drug hurting me and I though maybe if I start doing this drug maybe he’ll stop. But see, instead of him stopping, we’re doing it together and the addiction got worse and worse for me then we separated, but I still had this addiction.

Chris Williams:

So you were clean before and he was already on the drug?

Lisa Robertson: 

Yes.

Chris Williams:

So you started taking drugs and then he got you sucked in?

Lisa Robertson: 

Absolutely.

Chris Williams:  

Wow. Then what happens in life after that? Did you just stop when you wanted to or did it take you farther? I mean how did it go?

Lisa Robertson:

It sounds easy, but like I said you had to go back to something, hoping for something greater than yourself. I knew I couldn’t do this by myself. I came here indifferent, saying what step they took and what they had to do. By me growing up in church, it goes back to the scripture, raise a child up in the way they should go and If they flee, they shall return back. With that scripture alone, it made me go back to the root where I came from and I started going back to church and therefore started taking more interest in me because of my drug addiction. They wanted me to come out because my mom was a very spiritual lady. She was well-known, very well-loved and she did whatever she could and people had a heart for her in the past because her baby girl got on drugs. We don’t want a missionary mother up here will go through nothing like that, you know, mother is loving.

With the prayers of the righteous, I was sent out one Sunday. This was something ironic that just happened. I woke up one morning and I heard a voice say “Trust me, come into my house” and I was like – it was a Sunday morning , so I said I’m going to go ahead and go to church with my daddy and my children and I went. It was the evangelist there. It was so ironic and miraculous. It was like this evangelist was talking straight to me. It was like, I know you’re here, I know you want to change. In that particular time, I had a toothache and he like, he called me out. He was like, you hurt, you got a toothache, you don’t want to stay the same, you want to change. You got hope in you and I want you to come up.

Chris, I actually froze in my seat because I knew I had a toothache. That was very well known through the pain, symptoms, service. I was like, this is ironic. This man is talking to me. So, I got up, shaking, shaking and I was like, this is it, this is it. Now, he warned me and told me that this was just the beginning. Even though by me confessing and hoping to change and expect something different in my life that I was going to be re-introduced  to drugs then. That was going to come to me. Huh! Take this, huh, drink this, you know? That’s exactly what happened Chris, it happened exactly the way that evangelist explained it to me and I was like wow. It’s not that I doubted him because at that time, like I said, I was hoping for the best of the best. I was living like an animal in empty houses, sleeping with no glass windows, no doors. That was by the grace of God that I’m sitting here giving you this interview today! I know it’s nothing but him.

I knew that I had to build a spiritual foundation. First of all, my mindset had to change so strong until it was like fire running through my bones and actually through my body. I experienced this and it was like the more I tried to eat naturally, I wasn’t getting fat, so once I start practicing picking my bible, that’s how I built my relationship with Christ. I read my bible,  I study my bible, I practice my bible, I apply it to my life and things started changing for me. Even though I was   going through – Chris, don’t get me wrong now, I still had little crosses to bear, but I learned to bear this crosses. My hope turned into faith and my faith turned into knowing that – knowing that there’s something greater. Knowing that I know there’s something miraculous is going to change. I look forward everyday. Look where I’m sitting here now which is Saint Mary’s, if this is not miraculous, oh my God.

Chris Williams: 

You’re right. Wow. I’m glad you’re here.

Lisa Robertson: 

I’m glad to be here. I promised, once I took that evangelist class at LeMoyne-Owen College, I will see my evangelist life. I look for souls now. I know that there are so many crying out souls that want to change. That’s why I’m here at Saint Mary’s where I come from, where God has delivered me and brought me from, come here to get meals and clothed and whatever they had to offer. Now, here I am doing the same thing in the Hope Ministry that my Husband and I has within the same place. Do you understand what I’m saying?

Chris Williams:  

I do. Yes…

Lisa Robertson: 

That’s how God works.

Chris Williams:

You get to give back. It’s going the other way around.

Lisa Robertson:  

I get to give back freely what was given to me.

Chris Williams:

Wow.

Lisa Robertson:

Last year, I heard a pastor, he told my husband and by me listening, I’m always listening. He told my husband, he said “You know brother T.A., your giving is going to make room for your blessing” and I said, okay, well that applies to me. My giving is going to make room for my blessing. I have so much love, Chris, in my heart right now. It has so much joy, it has so much peace even though I have a health issue, I’m back and forth to the doctor, I’m in a hospital, I get asthma attacks, I can’t keep my job. When I go to the doctor sometimes I don’t have the finances to even let him see me, which is a $24 fee. But each time I wake up every morning, I hope it’s something different. Even as a Christian now, because I thank God for me knowing the difference from church folk and being a Christian since it’s a passive verb and if you don’t put no action to a passive word, it’s dead.

Chris Williams:

I respect that. I really do. I respect the action. I’m glad you’re taking such strong action and really delivering what you’re saying you’re believing. That’s a big deal.

Question 4: How are you sharing hope today?

Obviously, you’re here doing this, returning all the things that had been given to you in so many ways, but any other ways that you’re sharing hope today?

Lisa Robertson: 

You know Chris, due to my illness, my job, I couldn’t work anymore. So, I went in my closet – as they said, you go in your closet and you pray and I pray for God to send something that me and my husband, that we could be prosperous not just for ourselves but for others. The Bridge Paper came. My husband worked for The Bridge for like over a year until I started. Once I started, I started loving it. My social capital to build, I started networking with people that was in high places, I started even witnessing telling the goodness. When I’ve given  my testimony from where Go has brought me from and to be able to just exist, just to be able to exist and to be able to just tell a story or somewhat, that’s so awesome that you could just put your trust in itbecause like I said, with The Bridge Paper. I thank God that Rhodes College student, whoever the Holy Spirit touched that particular day because it had to be the Holy Spirit to touch their student that day, gave that student that vision. That vision went on to the other Rhodes College students. There they are right here, right now. They’re distributing, giving out papers.

Each Thursday, we get 10 free papers. We also can purchase the paper. They purchase it to us for a quarter. We sell it to the community for a dollar. Me with my ministry, I work with battered children and women, homeless women and children. I take advantage of me being a Bridge vendor and a missionary and an evangelist. Each opportunity that I get out, it’s not even about me. I’m telling more about the kingdom. I’m building the kingdom system because HOPEHe Only Promises Eternal Life. That let me know right there, this is not my home. I’m just here on borrowed time. I don’t even owe myself. He gave me stewardship over my life and I take that stewardship so sincerely to sometimes I repeat it daily even for my thoughts. Even now as a Christian, I have doubts but I know that if I let a little doubt come in, that’s going to kill my faith and I’ve come too far in my faith to even let it die like that. Regardless of what the situation may look like, regardless of what the pain may feel like, regardless of the sleepless nights, regardless of the task where I can’t keep my food down, regardless of whether the doctor says you’re going to have to do this or this is going to happen, they gave up on me years ago. I’m a miracle. I’m sitting here with you.

Chris Williams: 

You know, I’m a pretty skeptical person. You don’t know this Lisa, but I really am and a lot of the communication that I do which is 5% of these interviews, I talk, everybody else talks the rest of the time, but it’s an easy job. I get to share a lot of hope because people deliver a lot of hope, but it’s really, really awesome sitting here across from you. Your face – I wish everybody listening could see it. Her face, her eyes, she’s just…This girl’s on fire and she’s alive and there’s hope and energy in her heart. You can tell that. So, it’s really great to meet you. It really is. I’m a pretty skeptical guy, but you know, you can see it in some people and I’m not saying that anybody else is lying when they’re talking about whatever hope they’re sharing, it’s just some people are just – you can see it in your life.

Question 5: How can we share hope?

So, I need to learn to be a greater person of hope, that’s for sure and a lot of people listening do to, coming through a hard time or may still be in a hard time or maybe doing great but thinking about themselves only. How can we share hope? How can we make our communities a better place? How can we make the people around us more hopeful?

Lisa Robertson: 

First all, it would be honest with ourselves and come to the concept of they’re loved and realize that what I have – I’m going to speak only of me. What I have experienced is that I went through it for someone else. Even though I was obedient and by the grace of God, here I am and I know it’s a day’s time that things are different from when I was coming up and I know that with the love and the passion in my heart that I have for my brothers and sisters, the one that I know, the ones that I don’t know, that’s for my neighbors, that’s for my enemies, that’s for whoever. I have only nothing but love.

Chris Williams: 

Wow. That’s a step and an action and everything all wrapped into one. You’re just loving people.

Lisa Robertson:

Trying to be Chris. It didn’t happen overnight. It was a process because for a particular time, I realized that it starts from the childhood. If you can remember some things back in your childhood that was like balancing you and it will carry over your adulthood what people fail to realize. Once you get a grasp on all of these assets, then you can actually use these things. Instead of the negative, use them for a positive matter. No matter what it looks like. I’m the type of person – I don’t too much operate on my feelings or my emotions because if I do that, then I’m a miss in giving what is needed. That’s the truth. When I do that, I’m coming out of spirit and in truth because I really don’t want no one’s experience to go through – to be hooked on drugs or to feel that they have…You know with me working with battered women and children, to feel that they have to be beat on just to have a place, a roof over their heads and I experience this all the time when I see these young women. I let them know, no! No! That is not what he died in the cross for. You don’t have to accept that.

Chris Williams:

You’re right.

Lisa Robertson: 

So, my mission today is to put hope in my brothers and sisters, to build them up to the best of my ability, whatever Christ gave me because I know through him, I can do all things.

Chris Williams:   

Wow. Loving the building of people. Lisa, that’s fantastic. It’s obvious you’re doing it. I’m glad. I really am. I’m glad you’re making this city better. Really, I mean hopefully a few other cities in the process. That’s great.

All right. I’ll ask you, but this is not one of the five questions but it’s fun to know.  What do you listen to if you’re just feeling a little down or a little low, you need some more hope in your life, what kind of music are you popping in? Favorite artist or CD or song track.

Lisa Robertson:  

You know, I have this artist my husband sings, Reverend Tim Wright. He sings his songs, “Trouble Don’t Last Always” and I go back through my illness and I see where I come from and I see, you know, he’s taking me, I’m going higher, higher each time in my praise and in my worship to the fact where sometimes I can say something Chris, sometimes I can’t honestly because I am a very, very blessed lady.

Chris Williams: 

Yes you are.

Lisa Robertson: 

Right now, I’m not even being Lisa. If you are a spiritual person, you’ll understand because in my heart, I have a passion for people. I want people to be at peace, I want people to have joy. I want people to realize who they are. The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want. That means a lot in that verse alone and I know that I’m going to bear crosses and I know since my life has changed, I know everybody’s not going to be with Lisa and I know that he prepared a tailor before me in the presence of my enemies. He anointed my head with oil. Surely, goodness will follow me all the days of my life. As long as I’m in his will and I’m being obedient, I’m on a constant repentance because I will always remember I was a fleshly person, so I always had to stay mindful of who I am, who I am, my purpose for living.

My purpose, what I’ve been through, like I said Chris is not for me. It’s my testimony to bring people out and to give them hope.You know, I look at people in the jurisdiction system, they here 25 years, they want to give up on their life. No. At one particular time, you know, me and my husband, we always write letters to prisoners just encouraging them, giving them hope. You know, you don’t give up all your life because you heard a man saying 25 years? No! I know someone greater. No, don’t believe in it. No, you got to have some hope. It starts with hope. It starts with that hope. Expecting something different. Even I today expect something different and I pray that this will help someone to come out of whatever that they are going through. The only thing that I ask them to do is just trust and have faith and know God work through people and if you are praying, believe in your prayer, what you’re asking for. Know that God is going to come here, he’s going to send you somebody and that thing’s going to be changed and it’s going to work for the purpose of his good. He got to get the glory out of him because people are going to see the change and the light and the glory in you. The only thing that people think that we have to do so much to become Christians. The only thing we have to have Chris is a willing heart. All I ask is for wisdom and knowledge and I know everything else is going to fall in place. Without wisdom and knowledge, I couldn’t be able to give you this interview today. At first I was nervous and I was like, why should I be nervous? He put me in position for this. I will shoulder it for this and I accept this. I’m here and by the grace of God I’m here sitting before Chris Williams. Hallelujah.

Chris Williams:  

I’m glad you’re sitting right here. That’s great. You are so encouraging. You really are.

Lisa Robertson: 

Well Chris, you know, I have been through so much and like I told you, I’m still going through. I don’t even look like a lady that was born with a rare disease, got to have surgery, don’t know if they’re going to take my large intestines out or if they’re going to place them down. I don’t know. I know my life is in Christ. If I had to have surgery which I know I already have, I’ve accepted that. But who I suppose? I trust God.

Chris Williams:

Seems like you got a good foundation.

Lisa Robertson: 

Chris, it started by me letting certain things die and by me saying letting certain things die, I know it was some things that I was going to have to let go. First, to our very base, stubborn  and pride. That’s the thing that’s going to keep us in the situation that we’re in. There won’t be no hope if you got pride. Then, the selfishness, you know, it goes on and on and on. That’ll never stop.

Chris Williams:  

Yes. IT seems to be the case for me too. I’m good at generating all that stuff. Well Lisa, thank you for your time today. I so appreciate you taking a few minutes out and spending it with us.

Lisa Robertson:  

It was a privilege and an honor Chris.

Chris Williams: 

Beautiful. I’m glad you’re here. Thank you.

Lisa Robertson:

If you need me in the near future, if there is someone who want to talk to me one on one, you know how to get in touch with me. You are also welcome to give them the information because I’m going to take a class now, I’m going to start a women’s group. I’ve been actually in-charged with this women group at the church which I belong to, Bethel Church here in Memphis, Tennessee and I have actually been in-charge over this group and I know God gave me  and I was like well, I got to be obedient, I got to take the classes that I need. And so I’m praying that my ministry would go further because women really need – we really need to stick together and we need to build each other up. We don’t need to talk about each other and tear each other down. Even though life and death lies in the tongue, blessings and curses can’t come out of the same mouth.  

Chris Williams: 

How can they get in touch with you? Is there an email address?

Lisa Robertson: 

I do have. It’s LisaLee@yahoo.com

Chris Williams:  

So, it’s LisaLee? How do you spell Lee?

Lisa Robertson:  

It’s together. LisaLee and it’s yahoo.com.

Chris Williams: 

Spell your name so I can make sure…

Lisa Robertson:

L-I-S-A L-E-E

Chris Williams:

Great. We’ll put that in the show notes.

Lisa Robertson: 

All right.

Chris Williams: 

That’s fantastic. Lisa, thank you. Lisa Robertson is just amazing. I hope you get to meet her someday. Thanks for your time.

Lisa Robertson:  

You’re welcome Chris.

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